This is some great propaganda
Mar 14
New anti-Semitism disguised by hatred of Israel, report says
Nice try. Bets who wrote this report?
I’m at a loss trying to decide if I believe there’s any significant amount of true anti-semitism today. It’s difficult to tell because so much of the world has valid issues with Israel for their treatment of the Palestinians. The only way to really find out would be for Israel to end the occupation.
I still don’t know what makes otherwise intelligent people, like Warren Kinsella, become so rabidly illogical in support of Israel. To them Israel can do no wrong; they get an unlimited free pass, I guess as payback for WW2. The problem is that free pass needs to end sometime. Every state that gives their unwavering support has become complicit in the long cycle of oppression and murder. And then people are shocked to hear that a decent proportion of the Middle East is upset?
On the converse side I’ve never personally met anyone who was so illogically supportive of the Palestinians. I’m sure they exist, but my observation is that it’s less frequent. Personally I think they’re both in the wrong and performing immoral acts and I think people should be free to criticize either side when they do something wrong without being branded as anti-semitic.
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Mar 14, 2008 @ 07:03:17
That’s not true. The execution of the recent war, for example, was a disaster. Omert bore responsibility forthat, and should have stepped aside.
Mar 14, 2008 @ 07:40:20
I’m at a loss trying to decide if I believe there’s any significant amount of true anti-semitism today.
Yes there is. It’s not a huge problem in places like Canada but in other parts of the world it still is. But it’s getting drowned out by the accusations of faux anti-semitism.
Mar 14, 2008 @ 10:25:52
Warren, you’re right on that one case. It’s the only one in recent memory, though, where criticizing the state became fair game.
Robert, do you have links to any evidence of continued anti-semitism in the world? I’m curious, and would like to see any impartial reports. I’m not at all trying to deny that it exists, but I’m an avid news reader (both mainstream and not), and see little evidence for it, which has led me to assume it’s not a significant problem.
I’m not including here the hatred towards Israel within the Middle East itself, which is obviously a major problem. However, I don’t think anyone can objectively claim how much of the root of that hatred is anti-semitism or anti-Israel, which is an important distinction (not that it changes the realities on the ground for the average person there, but it changes the solution). Governments can be changed; religion can’t.
Mar 14, 2008 @ 11:14:09
Here’s one.
Schoolgirl Jasmine Kranat was attacked after catching a bus back home from her local Asda on a summer Saturday afternoon. The 12-year-old from North London was travelling with a friend. The two girls had bought ingredients to make smoothies for a sleepover. They were talking when a group of nine black and Asian teenagers pushed next to them on the back seat and forced them into a corner. The girls were aggressively asked: “Are you Jewish?” Jasmine’s friend was wearing a crucifix – and was untouched during what followed. Jasmine is thought to have been picked on because, although she answered “I’m English”, she blushed when being interrogated. CCTV records from the bus show that Jasmine was punched several times in the face until receiving a blow that knocked her unconscious.
Her attackers then stamped on her head and chest as she lay on the floor. Despite the screams of her friend, none of the other passengers came to help. The bus driver turned in his seat to aks if everything was OK.
This didn’t get much attention at the time because the assailants weren’t Muslim.
Mar 16, 2008 @ 05:50:20
Is this any more common, outside the middle east, than Christians, Muslims or Hindus being attacked because of their religion? Any search on the web with terms related to Jewish and Attack is obviously overwhelmed with news inside Israel itself, so it’s hard for me to tell.